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Humans, with very few exceptions, have lost their merit of direct communication with God because *each sin moves us away from God, from perfection.* Not all who ever lived on Earth had knowledge about the truth from those who deserved to have it revealed by Divinity and especially from Jesus Christ, the human form of Divinity. It has always been easy for any human to know what the useless suffering is and to never produce it (no need for the Creator to tell us this). That is why *He expects us to strive to never do evil, especially to never do evil intentionally, to never cause useless suffering, any damage, to others and to ourselves.*

In brief, the Creator of this world (God/Divinity) exists because this reality, with us into it, is not the result of nothing, or the result of no intelligence, because *from no intelligence involved, no intelligence comes.* That is why atheists renounce to elementary logic and to simple rationality intentionally when they believe that this reality has always existed without any intelligence involved. *God is not bounded by what He has created,* but atheists, in their superficiality, do not want to recognize their limitations. For example, science will never be able to really know, at least, what a photon is (the magnification process being infinite). Regarding the Creator of this reality (the nature of God etc.), our power of comprehension will always be like how much the cups can think to understand the man who made them (comparison mentioned in the Bible), but *we have Jesus Christ, the human form of Divinity, to be able to see God and what He expects from us.* Therefore, those wise enough understand that *God is not bounded by time (not being bounded by what He has created), respectively He is eternal, always existed, which means that He was not created,* but atheists ignore, also, the other fact already mentioned by me about the nature of God that *our power of comprehension will always be like how much the cups can think to understand the man who made them". Anyway, they have no excuse because we have Jesus Christ, the human form of Divinity, to be able to understand.*

“Imagine a universe in which every conscious creature suffers for as much as it can, for as long as it can” That’s a perfect description of Hell if i’ve ever seen one.

Good grief. If there were no threat of hell, would people still believe?

Wlc: you can’t justify morality without god Harris: perfectly sums it up in terms anyone with a second grade education can understand Wlc: you refuse to justify morality without god

Wlc: you can’t justify morality without god Harris: perfectly sums it up in terms anyone with a second grade education can understand Wlc: you refuse to justify morality without god

Sam’s rebuttal and especially his comparison at 1:06:58. 😂

As a nearly lifelong leftist and atheist, I find Hitchens representation of secular morality quite ironic, as he justified the bombing of Afghanis because he conceived of terrorist violence as an expression of religion rather than a half century of Western (and Eastern) misadventure and malign geopolitics. Atheism may provide a future grounds for a better ethics, but it has not yet realized that ethics on this planet, as its ideas are held by those without the power to actualize them. On the other hand, it is also a special experience to see a charlatan like D'Souza at work. the Bible also tells us that the world is a flat plane covered by dome and that human life began with two human beings estimated to have been created 6000 years ago. If the Bible makes predictions about the composition of reality, without interpretation, it is a bad predictor. And then he makes an argument, that he and Hitchens arguments should be taken on their merits; that in another debate with an English atheist he contradicts, as he tells the English atheist that he is in fact an atheist because he is English. And maybe, possibly, there isn't a single meaning of life and that meaning must be constructed by us in the present within our short and finite lives. Just because a question is posed doesn't mean it is necessary. There are all sorts of stupid questions, or good questions that become meaningless. When they are posed outside of the Bible we may treat them as such, but for a demagogue like D'Souza that book's questions as interpreted by scholars of his choosing, must be taken seriously or we are not good or moral.

WLC’s statement that IF there is a god, there are objective morals - so boring and inconsequential. Sam won hands down.

I saw the Sam Harris and William Craig debate live. Notre Dame promised to do more and didn't.

Liberal mooks😒

D'Souza dares mentioning Occam's razor while invoking an omniscient, omnipotent entity that cannot do any wrong. Anyone playing this ultimate card (which is is also invisible and undetectable) better pretend Occam''s razor doesn't exist.

We were supposed to get another. What happened??

I was there.

Listening to two otherwise knowledgeable men fumble around astrophysics was tough.

The detective example is how many detectives lose their job because they can't find the evidence but are sure they are right and pursue it twisting themselves into pretzels trying to make facts fit their theory.

Weird that it would be unthinkable that a psychopath occupy a state of the best possible well-being. There are plenty of psychopaths that have not murdered people.

god killed all the animals , jesus KILLED THE WORLD

I drove 5 hours for this debate. Sat right in the middle. It was a great time.

The guy I agree with completely HUMILIATED the guy I don’t agree with

If anything is objectively true, then it can't by definition only be true if it comes from a given source. It is nonsense to suggest that there is an objective morality, then in the same breath declare that it could only come from a god. Either it is objectively true or it isn't. If a god is required, then it's subjective to that god's will. He hasn't demonstrated that such an objective truth exists, let alone that it must come from a god. In every way, Craig's argument fails.

AFTER 14 YEARS LOTS HAVE CHANGED, SCIENTIFICALLY. NOTHING FOR RELIGION.

If there is no God,then who made the universe? The scientists all agree that the universe came from nothing. Nothing cannot make anything. Only God can create something out of nothing. It's so simple.

Is'nt it time we grew up and out of believing in bronze / iron age superstitious , fiction shaman invented deities and gods ? We no longer have to pin our lives on nonsensical delusions !

What’s frustrating about Craig (and Sam for that matter) is that they fail to admit that religion CAN be dogmatic. No differently than science can be indoctrinating. I would never argue that certain corners of religion haven’t abused and manipulated, misguided their own holy principals. In fact, Aldus Huxley in Perennial Philosphy mentions this as a common pitfall of Christianity, as Jesus Christ resembles the embodiment of god, as something man can obtain here on earth, which can make it vulnerable to man’s ego to twist it. More eastern religions see god as experiential, and unobtainable but observational as a mere mortal. That’s an important discretion. Religion fundamentally has to be less concerned with estranging our natures as sentient beings, as science has to be less concerned with reasoning away the unmeasurable. It’s the UNION of the two where one can discover that our sciences help us understand our material world, but it’s religion that helps us grapple with our spiritual world, the sublime and intuitive world. Because the alternatives of absolute beliefs in only science or pure religion is nihilism and dogma. These two are talking past eachother when they should be learning from eachother. Curious to hear what Sam thinks about the suffering of individuals in a seemingly “scientifically advanced world” and what he would tell every artist since the birth of mankind. Knowledge is not wisdom, and this is why the smartest people can still feel the most lost, as they’re extremely good at rationalizing themselves into their own assurance.

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D'Souza wants us to believe that God popped out of absolutely nothing and created everything. Presto. 😂😂

I don't think D'Souza has the slightest idea of time. He keeps talking about how life began as a single cell, but that is already a very complex life form. Think back a few million years.

God forgot how to be kind and decent on the first page of the Old Testament. He didn't even get that right.

1970's?

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Where’s the alter and the covenant that was built and renewed that gave Jews current Israel? Faye-ggit don’t even know his book

Having just watched him publicly being owned by Alex O’Conner - It’s disheartening to see Dinesh has only become more insufferable.

Unfortunately, too much people still give churches authority in 2024..

Can someone please get William Lane Craig a glass of water? He sounds like he perpetually has a dry mouth.

D'Souza: look at all the wars that atheists were involved in!! D'Souza 90 seconds later: just because there were Christians involved in the wars doesnt mean Christianity was the reason!

Hitchens used Dinesh's logic as a punching bag.........

God debate is just stupid. God is a term so-ill defined that it is completely pointless.

Can’t understand why adults argue about the existence of invisible sky wizards

I've listened to so many of these kinds of debates. Two takeaways I have from all of them. 1- Apologists really have nothing and know it, they think they can pile a hundred claims on top of the original claim "god is real" and that somehow is evidence. 2- they all think philosophy is evidence. "philosophical evidence" is an oxymoron.

Craig's speech sounds like word salad,huge nothing burger

Who’s here after Alex’s debate?

Notre Dame College is the best College in Bangladesh

Dinesh really hit us with the bandwagon argument “97% vs 3% the 97% must be right”

Here again after seeing the recent debate between D’Souza and O’Connor to see if O’Connor is the protégé he seems to be.

Congratulation to all!

Repent for all of your sins to God Christ Jesus

YAY GO JEZUS CHRIST!!

Y'know it's funny. When I was a little child -- very, very little -- I spotted the problem with D'Souza's argument at 55:30. I asked my mother "Where did God come from?" Her answer was "I don't know. I guess he created himself." It didn't make sense to me then, and it still doesn't make sense today. If he wants to paint the universe creating itself as absurd, he's engaging in an exercise of special pleading to say that God somehow can. If he wants to say that God has always existed, why can't the universe have always existed in various states? In the end, "God did it" is how religious people say "I don't know", and I guess he thinks that has some kind of explanatory power worthy of the conceit and condescension he displays here.